The Guardian's Indigenous affairs reporters Sarah Collard and Ella Archibald-Binge discuss the recently published investigative series The Descendents, which they co-created and researched alongside a team of other journalists. The podcast seeks to uncover the truth behind frontier war massacres and truth-telling across Australia. Focused on Western Australia, Sarah speaks to decoding colonial diaries with details on the massacres of First Nations Peoples, and Ella delves into the massacres in Queensland with the alleged involvement of the founder of Australian rules football, Tom Wills.