Mel is joined by bassist of Camp Cope, and author Kelly-Dawn Hellmrich to speak about her debut book It's Not For You.

In the book, Kelly-Dawn interviews and profiles artists like Amy Taylor, Courtney Barnett, Vika & Linda Bull, Sampa the Great, Angie Mcmahon, Julia Jacklin and more about the trials and tribulations of their time in the spotlight. Together, they seek to answer the eye-roll inducing question, 'What's it like to be a woman in the music industry?'

The two discuss Kelly-Dawn's decision to write this book, the choice of the title, her grandmother's influence on her life, and more.