While in NYC for the New Music Seminar Conference in '87, The Ghost caught up with Melbourne born, New York based artist JG Thirlwell (also known as Foetus, Clint Ruin, Frank Want). Thirlwell has worked with Lydia Lunch, The The, Pantera, Nine Inch Nails, White Zombie, Jon Spencer Blues Explosion, Coil, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Arto Lindsay, Marc Almond, Swans and countless others.

This long ranging conversation was recorded in the studio of Swans drummer Roli Mosimann.