From an episode of Future Perfect∙Presented by Dylan Bird
Interview
Future Perfect: The Future Of Higher Education In Australia
Dylan Bird is joined by George Williams, Vice Chancellor of Western Sydney University, to understand the variety of issues currently facing Australia’s higher education sector and students and how universities can chart a better path forward, as tackled in his new essay Aiming Higher: Universities and Australia’s Future.
“When you’ve got such a fundamental misalignment [between education and profit], it’s no surprise people say “What are you doing? What are unis for? Have you lost your way?” … we’ve got to reassert that primacy of, first and foremost, students”
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