Francesca Albanese is a human rights expert, legal scholar, and one of the world's most significant voices on Palestinian struggle.

Francesca joins Dylan Bird to reflect on her life and career spent face to face with human suffering, her experience as a target of the pro-Israel lobby, the moral imperative to mobilise against genocide, and where she finds hope.

Francesca’s new book While the World Sleeps: Stories, Words and Wounds of Palestine is out now.

"The genocide has changed my life forever. I don't think there is a way to repair it other than being good, to being caring towards myself, towards my loved ones...I have two young children. Preserving my sanity is something that goes hand in hand with being their mum.”

Photo credit: The United Nations website.