From an episode of Future PerfectPresented by Dylan Bird

Interview

Future Perfect: Australian Foreign Policy in the Trump Era

Dylan Bird is joined by Clinton Fernandes, Professor of International and Political Studies at the University of New South Wales, to understand the Trump administration’s foreign policy agenda and its alignment with the interests of Big Tech, as well as the possible consequences of Australia’s commitment to AUKUS and alliance with the United States, as explored in his new book Turbulence: Australian Foreign Policy in the Trump Era.

“[Trump]’s foreign policy agenda and domestic agenda are two sides of the same coin. The framework is ‘identity’ and ‘interests’; he is trying to harness the identity of the voting base of the Republican party to vote for him, while advancing the interests of the elite coalition that actually funded him.”

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Listen to Future Perfect: Australian Foreign Policy in the Trump Era20:2417 November 2025