Anna Funder is an acclaimed Australian author behind award-winning books Stasiland and All That I Am, and her most recent Wifedom: Mrs. Orwell’s Invisible Life.

Earlier this month, Anna travelled to Canberra with a group of other artists, writers and musicians to lobby MPs that their work had been stolen and ingested into AI computer programs without consent or payment, and in breach of copyright.

Anna joins guest host Nick Feik to discuss the impact of big tech's theft on Australian artists, and what should be done about it - as explored in her recent Guardian opinion piece.

“These people are not establishing public libraries in the public interest, they are for-profit companies … [OpenAI CEO Sam Altman] said ‘we would like information to become a utility that you pay for in the same way you pay for water and electricity’. They are using this to make money, and they need to pay their suppliers, and one of those suppliers is me.”