Listen to Drawn Out, She-oak and Sunlight, Considerable Sexual Licence and Voyage57:576 May 2021

Richard Watts is joined by comic book lover Bernard Caleo for this month’s Drawn Out segment, discussing Declan Shelvey’s Bog Bodies and Savage Town, two Irish graphic novels transforming the crime fiction genre, and Scribe Publications’ Two-Week Wait, a sensitive portrayal of the IVF process.

Curator Dr Angela Hesson talks about NGV Australia’s latest exhibition, ‘She-oak and Sunlight’, featuring the nation’s largest collection of Australian impressionist pieces with a particular focus on the work of women in the movement.

Finally, Wiradjuri man and choreographer Joel Bray introduces ‘Considerable Sexual Licence’, a participatory dance piece exploring sensuality down-under for Yirramboi 2021 and writer Helen Begley and performer Penny Larkins chat about ‘Voyage’, a new Australian musical blending folk music with the stories of Australia’s first female settlers. 

About this program

Visual art, theatre, film and literature. Segments include:

  • 'Art Attack' - fortnightly visual arts reviews with Ace Wagstaff and Tai Snaith.
  • 'Shoot the Messenger' - fortnightly theatre news & reviews with Fleur Kilpatrick.
  • 'Drawn Out' - monthly chat about comic books and graphic novels with Bernard Caleo.

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Richard Watts has many years experience working in the arts industry, including five years as the Artistic Director of the youth arts organisation Express Media, seven years on the Board of Melbourne Fringe (including three years as Chair), and six years on the Committee of Management at La Mama Theatre, where he currently serves as Chair. Richard has helped program a range of festivals including Next Wave, the National Young Writers' Festival, the Melbourne Queer Film Festival and the Emerging Writers' Festival (which he founded) and he has written for various broadsheets, journals, zines and magazines. Currently he pays the rent by working as the Performing Arts Editor at In his spare time he watches old Doctor Who episodes.

The podcast intro and outro theme is Soft Illusion and was generously provided by Andras.