Mel Fulton is joined by Australian writer and host of the First Time podcast, Kate Mildenhall, as the two discuss and dissect Kate's unconventionally exciting novel The Hummingbird Effect (2023), a beautiful narrative following four different women who are connected across time and place by an invisible thread. Mel is also joined by writer, researcher, and university teacher, Grace Lee, who presents her latest polyphonic verse novel Chinese Fish (2023), where she presents the struggles of Asian perception in Australia and New Zealand through multiple voices' and characters, each embodying an element of these ideas. Grace treats us to a playfully sweet short reading from the novel to wrap up this week's instalment of Literati Glitterati.