Larissa Behrendt is a Euahleyai/Gamillaroi activist, academic, writer and director. She joins Krystal to talk about her book The First Inventors: How people shaped a continent (co-authored with Billy Griffiths and Sean Ulm), which tells stories of innovation, design, and Indigenous societies dating back almost 65,000 years.

Larissa also discusses the world's oldest story of Budj Bim and the volcano, plus early drawings and archaeological discoveries, including Gunditjmara and early aquaculture and the wonders of this social history.

Plus, she and Krystal unpack the lack of popular interest and respect for Indigenous history and culture.