From an episode of Future Perfect∙Presented by Dylan Bird
Interview
Future Perfect: The Dangers Facing Refugee Protections
Dylan Bird is joined by David Manne, Executive Director of Refugee Legal, to unpack the state of refugee protections globally and in Australia, following the Trump administration urging countries to align with the US on their crackdown on migrants at last week’s UN General Assembly, and the Albanese government’s $400 million deal with Nauru to resettle hundreds of non-citizens caught up in the High Court’s NZYQ decision.
“What the US appears to be doing is not only decimating its commitment to refugee resettlement … but is encouraging other countries to do so – this is a really significant development.”
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Listen to Future Perfect: The Dangers Facing Refugee Protections01:18:00∙29 September 2025∙