Listen to Gail Mabo’s ‘Current’ & Swinburne Circus Art students face uncertainty45:5427 July 2023

First Nations artist Gail Mabo talks shouldering the legacy of her father, activist Eddie Mabo, and her new exhibition ‘Current’ at McClelland Gallery with fellow First Nations artists Lisa Wuap and Dominic White, transporting audiences to her home in Murray Island; National Institute for Circus Arts students Sophia Laidlaw and Naruha Ohta explain their distress towards Swinburne University’s shock decision to freeze the Bachelor of Circus Arts program for 2024, leaving their futures in the art form uncertain; Actor and playwright Benjamin Nichol explores the unpredictability of queer love and intimacy in his two productions ‘Kerosene’ and ‘SIRENS’ at Fortyfivedownstairs theatre. 

About this program

Visual art, theatre, film and literature. Segments include:

  • 'Art Attack' - fortnightly visual arts reviews with Ace Wagstaff and Tai Snaith.
  • 'Shoot the Messenger' - fortnightly theatre news & reviews with Fleur Kilpatrick.
  • 'Drawn Out' - monthly chat about comic books and graphic novels with Bernard Caleo.

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Richard Watts has many years experience working in the arts industry, including five years as the Artistic Director of the youth arts organisation Express Media, seven years on the Board of Melbourne Fringe (including three years as Chair), and six years on the Committee of Management at La Mama Theatre, where he currently serves as Chair. Richard has helped program a range of festivals including Next Wave, the National Young Writers' Festival, the Melbourne Queer Film Festival and the Emerging Writers' Festival (which he founded) and he has written for various broadsheets, journals, zines and magazines. Currently he pays the rent by working as the Performing Arts Editor at In his spare time he watches old Doctor Who episodes.

The podcast intro and outro theme is Soft Illusion and was generously provided by Andras.