Award-winning writer Sophie Cunningham joins Breakfasters to chat about her latest essay for Meanjin. In her piece, “If You Choose To Stay, We May Not Be Able To Save You”, Sophie meditates on nature, community, politics, desperation and belonging. When writing the essay, she says she was trying to wrap her head around the realities of the bushfires and climate change – until the pandemic hit, at which point she switched her focus to the links between the fires and the pandemic. She tells Breakfasters that when it comes to our current crisis, the focus needs to be on finding a way forward, rather than obsessing about the detail.