From an episode of Future PerfectPresented by Dylan Bird

Interview

Future Perfect: Why The Gaza Peace Plan Is Failing

While attention has shifted to Israel’s attacks in Iran and Lebanon, their killing hasn’t stopped in Gaza, with Israel set to increase its control of the territory in defiance of the Gaza Peace Plan.

Dylan Bird sits down with Michelle Burgis-Kasthala, Professor of International Law at La Trobe University, to unpack the peace plan as explored in her latest article for The Conversation. Dylan and Michelle discuss why the peace plan is failing, how Israel is increasing its control over Gaza, why international law has failed to hold Israel to account, and the wider impact on regional dynamics in the Middle East.

“[Israel is increasing its control over Gaza] because it wants to and it can, it’s as simple as that … the rationale [in the peace plan] was that Israel would steadily withdraw, but in fact of course it’s doing the opposite; it’s steadily increasing - and there’s been no pushback.”

Michelle Burgis-Kasthala
Listen to Future Perfect: Why The Gaza Peace Plan Is Failing21:448 June 2026