Dylan Bird sits down with broadcaster and academic Waleed Aly for a wide-ranging conversation grappling with the troubled times we live in through the lens of liberalism. Dylan and Waleed chat about what the political philosophy has accomplished, where in history it started to fracture, how it manifests in the new politics arising and the decreasing appeal of mainstream politics, and potential paths forward, as explored in Waleed's new Quarterly Essay Time of Monsters: What Future for Liberalism?

“It’s just been one of those centuries where it’s crisis, then another crisis, then another crisis, they’re just rolling shocks … I think there’s a temptation for us in a moment like this to say 'What’s going on with the populist right?' but it ignores that there’s been a breakout on the left as well. This is better understood as a widespread thing.”